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Music is a powerful tool for personal and political change. Unfortunately, cis women, trans, and gender-expansive folks have not always been well-represented at the mic (or guitar, bass, drums, keyboard… you get the idea!).

If you are a music gear manufacturer, retailer, or venue-owner who wants to learn how to make your customers’ and employees’ experiences better or a musician who wants to hear both hilarious and horrifying stories from folks like you, Mid-Riff can help.

Hosted by Hilary B. Jones, Mid-Riff features interviews with musicians, makers, and sellers from a variety of experiences and identities as well as tips to create awesome music spaces and workplaces.

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Episode 072

Sneaking into punk clubs, recording with Don Zientara in high school, working with a record label run by a woman, and the intersection of time, age, and notoriety are part of Hilary’s conversation with guitarist and vocalist, Thalia Zedek (E, Come, Live Skull).


Episode 071

Is Lizzo a monster? What about Morrissey? What about Jimmy Page or David Bowie or Ryan Adams the guy in that local band who always hits on teenagers or the myriad other artists who have allegedly engaged in behavior that has harmed others? How do we interact with them and their art once the harm is revealed? How does art intersect with the artist’s identities and experiences or our own? In today’s episode, Hilary digs into the nuances of these questions (and *spoiler* there are more questions than answers!).


Episode 070

Creating a 25-person musical collective featuring black women and gender expansive musicians, musical strategizing, and AI and appropriation are part of Hilary’s conversation with musician, lawyer, writer, and consultant, Gabriella “Guitar Gabby” Logan.


Episode 069

A recent court case found that playing songs with offensive lyrics in a workplace can contribute to hostile environment sexual harassment. But what is hostile environment sexual harassment? How does it work and how can you prevent it? Hilary covers some harassment basics in this episode. Read more here!


Episode 068

Music as a reputable career choice, boy bands, prophetic guitar tattoos, visiting 34 countries, and the role of those with power in the industry are part of Hilary’s conversation with guitarist Angie Swan.


Episode 067

Feeling overwhelmed by the world? Want to come up with a plan to get involved, but need a few ideas? Hilary’s got you (and/or your music-related company) covered. Citations here!


Episode 066

Hilary talks about why there are so few moms in bands and in music gear more broadly and discusses what individuals and companies can do to help moms keep playing and pursuing their careers. Citations here!


Episode 065

Mid-Riff went to NAMM and spoke with 6 manufacturers, 4 MI media/demo folks, and 1 retailer to give you the goods re: the current state of the industry/diversity, equity, and inclusion!

Interviewee companies: EarthQuaker Devices, Summer School Electronics, Hiwatt Amplifiers, Dunable Guitars, Poly Effects, Get Offset, Pedal Playhouse, 60 Cycle Hum, Seymour Duncan, Oakland Guitars, Working Class Music


Episode 064

The geariest love story, the gendering of the harp, a solution for nagging wife memes, and leading by example are part of Hilary’s conversation with Emily Hopkins (aka, Emily Harpist) and Russ Fro.


Episode 063

Most companies want to be good rolemodels in the industry, but often don’t know where to start. In this episode, Hilary talks about the importance of creating company values and using them to create a better workplace and industry. 

She follows up with info on her next online course, No Stairway Denied: Creating Inclusive Workplaces in Music, where folks can learn how to create and use company values and a whole bunch more!


Episode 062

The perils and promises of repairing amplifiers and posting on YouTube, tips for getting into repair, and diagnosing your dying amp are all part of Hilary’s conversation with amp builder and repair person, Colleen Fazio.


Episode 061

Many marginalized musicians have a shared experience of dread anticipating negative treatment when entering a music store— as though they are preparing for battle. In this episode, Hilary talks about this experience of “anticipatory armor,” how it works, and how retailers can prevent it. Citations here!


Episode 060

Emily the Strange guitars, being musically typecast, mental health, and the Art of the Revolution are part of Hilary’s discussion with Taylor Ngiri Seaberg.


Episode 059

Mid-Riff takes the show on the road to the Minneapolis / St. Paul area! Hilary talks gender and gear with SYM1, Nat Harvie, and Pamela Laizure in front of a live audience at Caydence Records and Coffee. The night featured live performances, a lutherie demo, gear rundowns, a panel discussion, and audience Q+A!


Episode 058

Taylor Swift karaoke machines, She Shred’s 1 Riff a Day, luthier apprenticeship, and the exact location of women in prog are part of Hilary’s discussion with Kim Chin-Gibbons (Sunset Mission). Plus, music, rights, representation, and AI.


Episode 057

Heavy retail armor, being treated as a musician, not a liability, and choosing not to work with gatekeepers are part of Hilary’s conversation with Jennifer Turpin and Adam Brilla from Stompbox Sonic. Plus, preventing tokenism in hiring.


Episode 056

Hilary interviews 15 awesome industry folks about NAMM 2022 and their thoughts about the Gender and Music Gear Experiences Report! Featuring: Caroline Guitar Company, Chase Bliss Audio, EarthQuaker Devices, Empress Effects, Ernie Ball Music Man, Eventide Audio, Get Offset, Heather Brown Electronicals, LEH Guitars, Loe Sounds, Neunaber Audio, Red Panda, Third Man Hardware, Working Class Music


Episode 055

Robot backing bands, managing retail baggage, talking class A amps at parties, making extra efforts for diversity, and dreaming of open mics are part of Hilary’s conversation with Laura B. Whitmore (Women’s International Music Network, She Rocks Awards, Positive Grid). Plus, music’s role in preventing mass shootings.


Episode 054

Midi Musical Directing, creating a portable musical lifestyle in Berlin, guitar, grooveboxes, and stepping outside the queer bubble are part of Hilary’s conversation with Sky Deep. Plus, music gear’s connection to reproductive rights.


Episode 053

Keyboard beatdowns, accessibility guitar inventions, shoegaze vs. avant pop, and a literally smoking recording are part of Hilary’s conversation with Rosie Varela (EEP, The Rosie Varela Project, Hogar Records, Brainville Studio). Plus, The Pedal Lady Problem.


Episode 052

Nebulous business cards, instrument gender stereotypes, “booth girls,” and podcasting are part of Hilary’s conversation with Natalie Morrison (D’Addario) and Stephanie Lamond (Recording Academy) of ReVoicing the Future: A Women of NAMM podcast. Plus, the Diversity in Music Gear Resource List.


Episode 051

Inventing bass organ techniques, dressing like Steve Albini, mentorship, the impact of trauma therapy on music and beyond are all part of Hilary’s conversation with Donna Diane from the band Djunah. Plus, representation days vs. months vs. years. 


Episode 050

Telling untold stories, the wildest first amp ever, getting bossed around in the studio, and music as a family affair are part of Hilary’s conversation with Samantha “GhettoSongBird” Hollins (Culture Rock Griot). Plus, reassessing what we value in hiring.


Episode 049

Preventative mansplaining, empathy-building, and the science of 5 string basses are all part of Hilary’s conversation with Ellis Hahn, founder and luthier at LEH Guitars. Plus, the “right” time for change.

Episode 048

Creating strong social ties and inclusive virtual classes and spaces in audio and helping venues to diversify their booking are part of the conversation with Lisa Machac, founder and director of Omni Sound Project. Plus, niceness and discomfort.


Episode 047

User experience design in music gear, left-handed guitar options, and John Popper’s harmonica fishing vest are all part of multi-instrumentalist Krystal Flowers’ conversation with Hilary. Plus creating community in music retail spaces.


Episode 046

Living your company values, non-binary presentation and representation, threatening hi-hats, and Peavey Peavey Peavey are all covered by Matt McDonald and Carl Platts (Electrofoods and Booklegger) in their conversation with Hilary. Plus, 7 ways music retailers can support parents.


Episode 045

Why are some jokes funny to some people and offensive to others? Hilary breaks down the function of jokes and implications for music gear spaces and workplaces and walking on eggshells vs. Venn diagrams.


Episode 044

Co-writing a song with Elliot Smith, Nirvana crashing at your house, documenting the early hardcore scene (without getting killed), and running a safer venue during Covid are all on the table as Hilary talks with photographer and venue owner, JJ Gonson.


Episode 043

Valuing femininity, Vampower amps, mandolin emergencies, and trans representation are part of Hilary’s conversation with Amy Mills (Retrofret Vintage Guitars, Couch Slut, Epistasis). Plus, the problem with “most guys.”


Episode 042

Hilary calls for help from the bottom of her basement by asking you to complete the Mid-Riff Listener Survey! You can answer these questions and more AND get entered to win a $100 Visa gift card. Simply complete the survey and email Hilary with the headline “raffle” and you’re IN! Thanks so much to you, Mid-Riff listener, for your continued support and input!


Episode 041

Hilary talks with Denise Meza-Reidpath and Rikki Davis, Co-Executive Directors of RIOT Rhode Island about gear loan libraries, instrument doulas, Steely Dan, and the stigma of being a vocalist. Plus, why are there no boys rock camps?


Episode 040

Hilary talks with Ciyadh Wells (Musically Cogitating Podcast, Margins Guitar Collective, Duo Charango) about guitar societies, creating community, carbon strings, and musicians’ relationships with the non-profit industrial complex. Plus, a defense of sparkly guitars.


Episode 039

In a replay interview, Hilary talks with Alice Bag about in-ear monitor envy, GarageBand demoing for her new record, Sister Dynamite, and how being “the first” is like hosting a dinner party.

New Content: Addressing music gear companies’ concerns when beginning to diversify their hiring process.


Episode 038

Hilary talks with LG (Thelma and the Sleaze / Queen of S- Mountain) about learning theory in lockdown, Peavey, podcasting, Burger Records, and intentionality around shirtless performances. Plus, teaching kids to recognize representation in media.


Episode 037

Hilary talks with Marci.DH about escaping the proving ground, creating tension with sonics, stereotype threat, and representation. Plus, parenting as the ultimate prevention.


Episode 036

Hilary talks with Rebecca Jasso (Old Town School Music Store) about her role as a guitar buyer and music retailer, stage banter, Star Search, and guitar body shapes for everyone. Plus, allyship, accompliceship, and co-conspiratorship.


Episode 035

Hilary talks with Tia Bailey (Working Class Music) on signature models and identity, giving up on bands, being a unicorn, Ladders 101, and the difference between retail and YouTube. Plus, moving beyond black squares.


Episode 034

Hilary talks with Aisha Loe (Loe Sounds) about SVTs as protection against misogyny, being homeful, Nine Inch Nails, and the privilege of learning. Plus, music gear jargon.


Episode 033

Hilary talks with Rosie Mankato (Mankato Guitars) about building a studio and isolating in the woods, the harsh world of luthier school, trying to make guitar bodies out of trash, and the difference a pleasant guitar store can make. Plus, actual “object”-ification.


Episode 032

In a re-play interview, Hilary talks with June Millington of Fanny (the first “all-female” rock band signed to a major label in 1969) about the Institute for the Musical Arts, how playing guitar is like being a nun, and music as a tool for overcoming shyness. 

New content: Hilary covers the problem with “nagging wife” guitar memes!


Episode 031

Hilary talks with Karen Schierhorn (BIG EAR Pedals) about the tyranny of middle school band teachers, being physically blocked in conversation, the dynamics of working with your partner, and octave pedals for vocal cords. Plus, meritocracy.


Episode 030

Hilary talks with Meredith Stern, drummer, DJ, and visual artist, about buying snares with the buddy system, gas mask microphones, using repetition to shift narratives, and what may be the wildest tour story you’ve ever heard. Plus, how to apologize.


Hilary talks with Mallory Nees, Social Media Strategist at Reverb, about sea shanties, the similarities between theater and social media, and tips for companies to make an impact through social media and marketing.

Episode 029


Hilary talks with luthier, musician, and professor, Rachel Rosenkrantz, (Atelier Rosenkrantz) about sustainability and wood politics, DJing as a luthierial gateway, and va-va-vooming your guitars. Plus tips for making change for independent luthiers and small shops.

Episode 028


Hilary talks with Asha Tamirisa (multimedia artist and professor of music) about being an expert on your own experience, access through open source software, self-preservation, and coming full circle on piano. Plus, sexual harassment

Episode 027


Hilary talks with Barb Morrison (producer for Blondie, Rufus Wainright, Franz Ferdinand, etc.) about touring with the Ramones, music mentorship, mic recommendations, and why Debbie Harry doesn’t care.

Episode 026


Hilary talks with Emile Milgrim (Las Nubes / Sweat Records) about being in Iggy Pop’s band, musical chivalry, playing the trash can, and creating safer spaces in record stores.

Eposode 025


Hilary talks with Sara Landeau (The Julie Ruin) about pedalboards as art, the gendering of technology, breaking things to learn, and etudes for dive-bombing. Plus, gear and class privilege.

Episode 024


Hilary talks with the duo Cathy Begien and Summer Mastous (who make sounds and pedal demos as Datachoir Sounds) about shoegaze as a pedal gateway drug, creating music for Miranda July’s Kajillionaire, their hot pedal collab with Old Blood Noise Endeavors, and why social media is the new van.

Episode 023


Hilary talks with critically-acclaimed singer-songwriter, Anjimile, about getting famous during a pandemic, the sweet, sweet Ableton grid, his songwriting order of operations, having a Google Doc for that, and the Bob’s Burgers Concentration Challenge (tm). Plus, empathy and longing for live music.

Episode 022


Hilary talks with drummer and record label owner, Katy Otto (Rainbow Crimes, Trophy Wife, Exotic Fever Records) about growing up in the punk/activist DC scene, raising a white boy, and drums as DIY EMDR.

Episode 021


Hilary talks with guitarist and social media shredder, Ice, about becoming a fan of fanned fret guitars, freezing epic metal beach videos, snow leopards, and song-writing. Plus, precarious manhood.

Episode 020


Hilary talks with Pamela Cole and Ellen Angelico (Fanny’s House of Music) about creating “Nashville’s Most Comfortable Music Store,” the specificity of oppression, and treating everyone like Joe Bonamassa. Plus, Music Store Salesperson Tropes.

Episode 019


Hilary talks with Ash Farrand (hissquiet) about the potential of genderlessness on the internet, the gear tinkerer community, and the importance of just starting. Plus, the patriarchy’s negative impact on men.

Episode 018


Hilary talks with Roz Raskin (Nova One) about emotional labor, safer spaces, and entering the pedal universe. Plus, utilizing RBG’s tactic for change.

Episode 017


Hilary talks with Seana Carmody (The Swirlies) & Joyce Raskin (Scarce) of the Red Jumpsuit Podcast about moving in with your podcast-mate / bandmate, getting kicked out of Nation of Ulysses, a green room visit from Drew Barrymore, and the joys of playing a Gumby guitar. Plus, tips for men in the industry to make change.

Episode 016


Hilary talks with Mona Tavakoli (Raining Jane, Jason Mraz, Ebi) about playing Sesame Street, crushed NBA dreams, and reintroducing herself to her culture. Plus, tips for companies to make change when they don’t know where to start.

Episode 015


Hilary talks with Penny Haas, COO of Reverend Guitars, about short scale basses and accessibility, working with Meshell Ndegeocello, Jen Wasner, and Mike Watt, and a pandemic escape to Brian May’s butt muscles (you’ll see!).

Episode 014


Episode 013

Hilary talks to Mindy Abovitz Monk, founder and editor of Tom Tom Magazine, about alien bat mitzvahs, Tom Tom’s dreams for the future, and thanking Ira Glass. Plus, The Music Gear Bechdel Test.

*Content warning for discussions of sexual violence (not detailed)- 5:55 to 54:10 is free from this content


Hilary talks with Jacqueline (Jacqui) James (So Over It), about creating inclusive spaces, confrontation through lyrics, and the differences (and similarities) between punk and opera.  

Episode 012


Episode 011

Hilary talks with June Millington of Fanny (the first all-female rock band signed to a major label in 1969) about the Institute for the Musical Arts, how playing guitar is like being a nun, and music as a tool for overcoming shyness. Plus, the socioecological model for making change.


Hilary talks with Lucy Coykendall (drums, vocals) and Mariana Cuellar (bass, vocals) of G.I.R.L. and assorted other projects (What Cheer? Brigade, etc.) about crushing pre-conceived notions, playing Rush when you aren’t even 20 yet, and being uke-curious. Plus, racism is a cancer.

Episode 010


Episode 009

Hilary talks with Militia Vox, (lead singer of Judas Priestess, solo artist, VJ, + more!) about going to NAMM with Dee Snider, trying out for the Ronettes, and how representation helps kids feel normal. Plus, ageism.


Episode 008

Hilary talks with Julie Robbins, CEO of EarthQuaker Devices, one of the biggest little pedal companies in the business. They discuss shutting down “the swimsuit edition”, what it’s REALLY like being a CEO, and tips for music gear diversity and inclusion at NAMM and beyond! Plus, sexual harassment training.


Episode 007

Hilary talks with Reba Mitchell of House Red and Whore Paint about her new project, L’Ashes, Craigslist nom de plumes, and being “someone else’s man”. Plus, racism in the workplace.


Episode 006

Hilary talks with Emily Harris of the Get Offset podcast about impact vs. intent, whether or not Steve Vai is delicious, and getting trolled with words you have to Google. Plus, microaggressions.


Episode 005

Hilary talks with punk pioneer, Alice Bag, about in-ear monitor envy, GarageBand demoing for her new record, Sister Dynamite, and how being “the first” is like hosting a dinner party. Plus, community agreements in the time of COVID-19.


Hilary talks with super shredder, Marissa Paternoster (Screaming Females, Noun), about paring down gear and the cognitive dissonance of growing up with Bikini Kill AND Pantera. Plus, five hiring tips!

Episode 004


Episode 003

Mid-Riff went to NAMM and Hilary came home with about 30 interviews to show for it! Listen in for crucial conversations with companies and attendees about gender and diversity in the music gear industry. Who's doing a good job? How can we do better? Why are my feet so tired? Oh yeah, and there's new gear, too!


Episode 002

Hilary talks to no wave/free jazz guitarist, Ava Mendoza, about sedans, music store paranoia, and the nuances of being “you go girl”-ed. Listener question answered: “What do you do if someone says something terrible, sexist, or otherwise offensive to you?”


Episode 001

Hilary talks to Rachel Blumberg about the *ahem* unique aesthetic of her first drum kit, transitioning from gear head denial to loving gear, band gender breakdowns, the woes and whoas of gear-carrying, and why buying gear should be like butter.


 
 
 

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